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Snoman
08-19-2008, 06:51 AM
I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a
better job of spending the money I earn than I would.



I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as
long as nobody is offended by it.



I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq I trust
that the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now think
we're good people.



I'm voting Democrat because I believe that people who can't
tell us if it will rain on Friday CAN tell us that the polar ice caps
will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.



I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about the
slaughter of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates
alive.



I'm voting Democrat because I believe that business should
not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even &
give the rest away to the government for redistribution as THEY see fit.



I'm voting Democrat because I believe three or four pointy
headed elitist liberals need to rewrite the Constitution every few days
to suit some fringe kooks who would NEVER get their agendas past the
voters.



I'm voting Democrat because I believe that when the
terrorists don't have to hide from us over there, when they come over
here I don't want to have any guns in the house to fight them off with.



I'm voting Democrat because I love the fact that I can now
marry whatever I want. I've decided to marry my horse.



I'm voting Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits
of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same
gallon of gas at 15% isn't.



Makes ya wonder how anyone would EVER vote Democrat, now
doesn't it?


:eek::eek::eek::eek:

ME & MY KITTY
08-19-2008, 07:52 AM
TOM, IT'S ABOUT TIME YOU CAME TO YOUR SENSES, DEMOCRAT.:bows:tu::rll:

TOOLHEAD
08-19-2008, 08:01 AM
After the republican performance these past 7.5 years I would think most people would be fed up with being bullshitted and misled.

But I'm sure there are still good folks who still don't realize they've fucked over and don't know it. I'm trying to think of one think Bush has accomplished. If I think of something I'll get back to you.

I still remember Bush saying Putan was a man he looked in the eye and he knew he could work with! Are you shitting me? I knew we were in trouble when he said that! That rotten SOB Putan was the head of the KGB. Who in their right mind would think he suddenly changed his behavior. The only thing the former Soviet leadership give a damn about is remaining in power...they could care less what you call it; communism, democracy, etc. Russian intelligence gathering has not only remained strong, it has actually increased in it's numbers of assets and scope since the so-called end of the cold war.

And don't get me started about the stupid fucking war in Iraq! Talk about a lack of judgment...

And then there's the massive debt and out of control and reckless spending this administration is responsible for. What true patriotic American would think it's a good idea to borrow trillions of dollars from our adversaries like China and some counties in the middle east? So not only is the Bush administration spending way more than they are collecting in revenues they are mortgaging the future of our country to people who don't particularly give a shit about us. Most savvy businessmen I know don't operate their businesses that way, but somehown a few people still think it's an ok way to run government. Then we have Dick Cheney telling us debt isn't necessarily a bad thing.

mopardave
08-19-2008, 08:32 AM
Well, while I am not in favor of McCain, I will have to vote against Obama.

BeWare
08-19-2008, 08:36 AM
Ten accomplishments of George. W. Bush

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By Andrew Sprung (http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/profile/Xpostfactoid) - July 11, 2008, 9:48AM
Like most Americans, I think of George W. Bush as a failed President.
Worse than that, I think him not simply as a President who chose unwise
policies but as one who assaulted the foundations of American democracy
and
federalism -- by institutionalizing torture, suspending habeas,
violating FISA, corrupting intelligence, and politicizing the Justice
Department, the CIA, the EPA and probably every other federal
agency.

Nonetheless: our institutions are strong, though weaker when he
took office; good people have served during his tenure; and not all of his
own impulses and goals were warped. After seven and a half years, the Bush
Administration
has some accomplishments under its belt. Arrayed together,
they look like the pillars of an impressive presidency -- if you discount the
incoming missiles of multiple disaster. Here's an equivocal list:

1.
Disarmament deal with North Korea - five years and maybe 10 bombs late, but
there would seem to be at least a reasonable chance that this rogue will be
effectively disarmed. John Bolton may sneer, but it's not every
President that's induced an enemy to blow up a nuclear reactor. After poking
the polecat Kim Jong II and stimulating North Korea's successful
weaponization, the Bush Administration has patiently tread a multilateral
path that's
yielded at least the potential of a good outcome.

2.
Bringing Gaddafi in from the cold: a long process with an array of carrots
and sticks, but the invasion of Iraq may have concentrated this dictator's
mind.

3. Massive increase in AIDS aid: perhaps thanks to Christianist
prodding, Bush has showed admirable focus and follow-through on one of the
greatest threats to global prosperity.

4. Prescription drug benefit:
too expensive, the donut hole is inefficient, private insurers have too great
a role, and the drug companies got a giveaway. But seniors do have
substantial help in paying their drug bills.

5. No terror attack
on U.S. soil since 9/11: no one will ever know all the reasons why, and many
of Bush's "antiterror" measures have come at a dreadful price. But preventing
another attack was probably Bush's top priority -- quite a heartfelt one. And
there has not been another attack -- here -- on his watch.

6. The
FISA bill he wanted: Bush has to know that he's gone all out on this front
probably to hand expanded capabilities to a Democratic President.
He's probably been motivated partly by the need to obtain cover for his
own crimes in breaking FISA. But again, he's doubtless convinced that
the intelligence agencies need the powers he's obtained for them. And
they probably do need most of them (http://xpostfactoid.blogspot.com/2008/07/senators-sum-of-all-fears.html).

7. Decent stewardship of the China
relationship: China-bashing on the economic front is mostly demagoguery; it's
in everyone's interest that China continue on a peaceful path to first-world
economic stature and attendant global influence. The Bush crew has maintained
trust and cooperation; it's
doubtful whether more pressure could have shaped
Chinese economic or geopolitical decisions more to our liking.

8.
Deposing the Taliban: yes, the caveats outweigh the accomplishment: we let
bin Ladin escape, we took our eye off the ball, we allowed al Qaeda
to regroup and left a foundling government in a shattered country to its
own
devices. Subsequent neglect snatched protracted down-trending struggle from the jaws of victory. But who's to say the initial campaign couldn't have been
botched? The Taliban went swiftly, with a minimum of blood.

9.
Deposing Saddam: again, the price paid and the terms chosen
were catastrophic. This was not a job to be undertaken on false
pretenses, without winning our chief allies' assent or the world's
acceptance; it was the wrong war at the wrong time, and it gave new life to
our worst enemies.
But Saddam was a threat to stability in the middle east
and therefore in the world. Iraqis would have had to cope with his end at
some point, and who's to say the transition would have been better without
the heavy hand of the hegemon? There is now at least a reasonable hope that a non-monstrous national government will assert control over Iraq.

10. The Surge: if a hedge fund
manager loses $700 million out of a $1 billion, do we credit him with
decisions that bring the balance back up to a half billion? A poor analogy.
Money is easily accounted; lives can't be, and
actual historical outcomes
can't be compared with might-have-beens. Nonetheless, whatever you think of
the decision to go to war or of the first four years of its execution, the
surge was an extraordinarily difficult decision (http://xpostfactoid.blogspot.com/2008/06/john-mccain-was-right.html)that's worked better than
basically anyone expected. It was also something of a reversal for Bush, who
had lived and died by the Rumsfeld doctrine to that point. I don't think
anyone can deny that the opportunity for a decent outcome in Iraq is far
greater now than in fall 2006; to deny the surge's centrality in the
turnaround is deep denial. Yes, those who designed and executed it got lucky
- but they made their own luck. The surge enabled the Sunni Awakening, the
Sadr rope-a-dope, and the long-delayed beginnings of legislative
progress.

So there you have it. I have not convinced myself that Bush was
a good President, or even not a monstrous President -- I consider
the institutionalization of torture as established U.S. policy a truly
monstrous legacy. So what exactly is the point of this exercise? Perhaps its
this: in a long-established democracy, there's almost an institutional
inertia toward
some constructive action. After a Rumsfeld, institutional
pressures and norms will push up a Gates. While stalwart nonpolitical
appointees like Richard Clarke may get pushed out, others, like Christopher
Hill will remain. Even a bad crew remains accountable to a large degree to
voters. As
long as people don't vote away their civil liberties or other
Constitutional protections, the system self-regulates and self-corrects.

Snoman
08-19-2008, 09:04 AM
Well, while I am not in favor of McCain, I will have to vote against Obama.


:tu::tu::tu::tu:


Guys I posted this as a joke please don'e beat each other up over it :tu:

Tabasco Cat
08-19-2008, 02:40 PM
:tu::tu::tu::tu:


Guys I posted this as a joke please don'e beat each other up over it :tu:


What he said :tu:

MissKitty
08-19-2008, 03:37 PM
:tu::tu::tu::tu:


Guys I posted this as a joke please don'e beat each other up over it :tu:

Now look what you did !!! :nono: :rll:

TOOLHEAD
08-19-2008, 08:00 PM
Sorry. My fault..."Premature escalation!" :devil

Snoman
08-19-2008, 08:12 PM
Sorry. My fault..."Premature escalation!" :devil


No problem Bob sometimes these can get out of hand,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,vote McCain :rll:

TOOLHEAD
08-19-2008, 09:34 PM
Don't you mean "McCain?" LOL You'll never find him on the ballot!!! :rll::rll:

MeanCat
08-19-2008, 10:07 PM
I would like too say one thing about the current pres. (HE'S FUCKED UP)

I did not vote for him the 2nd time. And them that did are living in a pipe dream.

I'm confused as too who voted this time. But I want a better none oil man in charge this time.

As the last one made over 54 billion dollar a year when we were suffering. ( but he felt bad)

But people think ahhhh give it to him. ( you fucking idiots) you will get what you deserve.

and I promise you. you won't like it!! as we don't now (dumb Ass)

Snoman
08-20-2008, 06:56 AM
I would like too say one thing about the current pres. (HE'S FUCKED UP)

I did not vote for him the 2nd time. And them that did are living in a pipe dream.

I'm confused as too who voted this time. But I want a better none oil man in charge this time.

As the last one made over 54 billion dollar a year when we were suffering. ( but he felt bad)

But people think ahhhh give it to him. ( you fucking idiots) you will get what you deserve.

and I promise you. you won't like it!! as we don't now (dumb Ass)


WHAT ????????????????????????????Go back to school,you sound like GW:rll:

AC-INXS
08-20-2008, 07:36 AM
WHAT ????????????????????????????Go back to school,you sound like GW:rll:

:rll::rll:

McMasters has ate up his brain,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

MIKE S.
08-21-2008, 06:25 PM
The fact is that they are all f'ed up as the good old USofA is 53 trillion in debt so that is only 175000 for each of us to pony up to get us even Get ready for the next Depression:frown:

DR PROWLER
08-21-2008, 06:28 PM
Can I vote for all you guys...
I'll let you vote in the next Canadian elections...promise!Exciting,ha...

mopardave
08-21-2008, 06:30 PM
Roman, come on down to our precinct. Brenda is Judge of Election. If you talk nice, I bet she will let you in!

DR PROWLER
08-21-2008, 07:00 PM
Roman, come on down to our precinct. Brenda is Judge of Election. If you talk nice, I bet she will let you in!

Hey Uncle Dave...thanks!
Only if you promise to come up and do the same....wouldn't that be a form of torture?:rll:

kat hunter
08-21-2008, 07:57 PM
Can I vote for all you guys...
I'll let you vote in the next Canadian elections...promise!Exciting,ha...

Come on over to Chicago, you can probably vote 3 or 4 times.:eek:

They even let the dead vote.:mad:

TOOLHEAD
08-22-2008, 07:19 AM
This is a true story.

In 1989 I flew to Madagascar to visit my wife who was posted there in the embassy. I arrived two days after they had their Presidential elections. I met a Malagasy guy who was really pissed. He said he voted five time for the opposition candidate and he STILL lost! :eek: