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Dreamcast18
02-17-2008, 03:10 AM
DAYTONA BEACH, Florida — All 168,000 grandstand seats at Daytona International Speedway were sold out for the Daytona 500, and tens of thousands more will pour into the enormous infield within the 2.5-mile oval for the 50th anniversary of the Daytona 500 on Sunday, February 17. Yet as satisfied as NASCAR deserves to be about this recognition of the success that stock car racing is enjoying, it still has good reason to be concerned about the future.

Last year, fewer than half of the 36 races in the Cup schedule were sellouts. California Speedway, which NASCAR has targeted as the centerpiece of its plan for nationwide acceptance of stock-car racing as mainstream entertainment, continues to have difficulty filling its 92,000 grandstand seats for its two Cup races. And even the Brickyard 400 at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway — which has become the sport's most popular race since 1994 — has had a couple of off years in a row.

The shrinkage extends to NASCAR's television ratings. Ever since NASCAR signed an eight-year deal with four networks in 2005 for $4.48 billion, media analysts have been watching NASCAR's viewership ratings with increasing skepticism. Last year's ratings were down about 9 percent compared to 2006, and down 21 percent from 2005.

The slide has Humpy Wheeler, the long-time executive at Lowe's Motor Speedway in Charlotte, North Carolina, very concerned about NASCAR's future. He has long expressed his dismay at escalating seat prices for fans (usually packaged as financially onerous "seat licenses"), as well as travel and accommodation costs. During NASCAR's annual tour of various stock-car enterprises in the Southeast for the media, Wheeler said, "Ticket sales are flat or they are below and (television) ratings are down and it's not because we have 300 channels. It's because we need to get back to our roots. We need to make this Car of Today work, and whatever NASCAR's got to do to get us back to racing and where we're putting black donuts on the sides of cars and not making felony offenses out of them. That's what we need to do."

Yet NASCAR can take solace in the fact that this is the kind of analysis that's accorded successful mainstream sports, which suggests it has attained its goal. The sport has achieved success because it embraced commercial values, and so it has set itself to follow the trends in both entertainment and the general economy. And so it's subject to the general decline in overall television ratings and resistance to the increasing fan costs just like any other sport.

The one thing that everyone agrees upon — both NASCAR and the inevitable second-guessers — is the need to ensure that the racing is good. NASCAR might be entertaining, but it's unique because it's a real sport, not just entertainment.

What this means to you: The demographics of NASCAR's fan base means less spending during a troubled economy, and it's also foolish to expect a continued double-digit growth in the sport in any case. After all, even single-digit growth is pretty good these days

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=124818

halicat
02-17-2008, 05:37 AM
Fans are tired of watching Hendrick teams dominate and the fact that the cars a no-name "cars of tomorrow"....

the passion is gone for most fans....:-?

Tangled up in 'Vitamin C'
02-17-2008, 06:38 AM
...I started watching NACSAR/Daytona when they still raced on the sand...the drivers had strong personalities, the cars looked different, you could tell if a Ford/Chevy etc etc was leading the pack, they even raced convertibles...I loved to watch the big Pontiacs go by in the early sixties.....I loved to watch Petty and Allison, Fireball Roberts, Fred Lorenzen....the tales of Smokey Yunick are legendary....

...for me, it's just not as much fun anymore...the cars are all alike, just different decals, and the drivers are all corporate spokesmen, in different colored driver suits

...............:bows:bows:bows BRING BACK "KING RICHARD" :bows:bows:bows.....................

mopardave
02-17-2008, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by Tangled up in 'Vitamin C':

...for me, it's just not as much fun anymore...the cars are all alike, just different decals, and the drivers are all corporate spokesmen, in different colored driver suits

...............:bows:bows:bows BRING BACK "KING RICHARD" :bows:bows:bows.....................

enough said. I doubt that I will even watch the race today.

Pepe
02-17-2008, 07:31 AM
..... it's cuz it's 'Nascar' ! :lol:

kat hunter
02-17-2008, 07:31 AM
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...for me, it's just not as much fun anymore...the cars are all alike, just different decals, and the drivers are all corporate spokesmen, in different colored driver suits

...............:bows:bows:bows BRING BACK "KING RICHARD" :bows:bows:bows.....................


Well said. I think I lost interest when the "stock" left the stock car racing.

Yes I know even way back the cars were heavily modified, but you could easily recognize the brand of the car.

halicat
02-17-2008, 09:47 AM
In case anyone is interested, there is another Daytona race thread.....

http://www.prowltalk.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=6792

MIKE S.
02-17-2008, 10:10 AM
Have to admit not excited about toyota in the mix now but its been commin for a few years in the other series Mikee gave them a real black eye last year by cheetin I'll still be there watchin cus I really like Nascar, I will still Buy american cars:tu:ps and you should too

AC-INXS
02-17-2008, 10:15 AM
Fans are tired of seeing the fart faces of Hendrick's drivers winning all the time > :vomit: jethro s4b, jiffy lube, & jelly jam dick


Actually,,,,its the lack of sponsorship $$$ changing the sport at this moment. If the tv ratings and full house track attendance doesn't show this year,,,it'll get worse.

Bring back the old days of real race cars,,,,no restrictor plates,,,,no template measuring aero designs,,,leaded fuel,,,,mechanics named Bubba in the pits smoking with no helmets and fire proof suits,,,,etc. etc. etc.
Damn AC,,,,,you really go over the cliff don't you? :rll:

mopardave
02-17-2008, 10:22 AM
Hey AC, when you right, you are right. I think I'll switch to Professional Wrestling. At least everyone knows that its rigged!

MIKE S.
02-17-2008, 10:32 AM
Hey AC I think you should go back to dial up also:rll::rll::rll:

halicat
02-17-2008, 10:55 AM
I want to see fighting in the pitts..... or the drivers wives jello wrestling :-P

AC-INXS
02-17-2008, 11:15 AM
Hey AC, when you right, you are right. I think I'll switch to Professional Wrestling. At least everyone knows that its rigged!

Dave > great observation and idea :tu:



quote by Hali > :bows "I want to see fighting in the pitts..... or the drivers wives jello wrestling"

Jimbo > :tu: the way it should be in racing,,,,,,,even beer drinking in the pits should be allowed! We need the fights in the pits,,,either the drivers throwing haymakers at each other, or the pit crew guys fighting with lug wrenches and jack handles. Hell,,,,,,Gillette would allocate more sponsorship $$$ into racing. :arrow: AND,,,I'm thinking we could market the wives jello wrestling on cable tv networks > A&E, TLC, or Spike channel would pick up the programming and we'd make a fortune :idea:

halicat
02-17-2008, 11:28 AM
how about this to add some excitement.... no Spotters or radios, back to the chalk boards !


:eek::eek:

JOYRIDE
02-17-2008, 11:36 AM
I know its not like the old days, but I'll be watching. It promises to be a real barn burner. The shootout was a real good race, but then again I'm byas toward Little E. I'd love to be down there in the pits this week.:burnout

Kruisin Kat
02-17-2008, 01:17 PM
Didn't know there was a race today. What time is it on & what network? I might just miss it, lol.

AC-INXS
02-17-2008, 01:23 PM
FOX SPORTS says starts at 2eastern,,,,,,,,,3:30 now, and not started yet

WTF,,,,,,rabbit crap on the back stretch?